Rich Rowley and his colleague at the Mind Lab in Auckland, New Zealand are on a mission to revolutionize the way kids are taught. The Mind Lab is part of a unique private/public sector partnership that each year engages with more than 40,000 students (making it, in theory, the largest school in the world).

In this episode, Rich talks about the project and why he is so committed to it (hint: he has a school age daughter). He also opens up about his own struggles at school as a student with A.D.H.D. (undiagnosed) and the journey that lead him to one of the world’s most unique and high tech education projects.

Along the way, he shares his thoughts on the value of traditional grades, and the future value of University degrees. He doesn’t pull any punches.

Give it a listen. It’s a fascinating story.

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